5.31.2007

#2 has landed


Cooper finally had a BM on the toilet, we were screaming, jumping up & down, ring pops were passed out to all. It was a miracle, we have been trying to convince him it wasn't that big of a deal for months, and finally he did it, afterwards he said "you know what dad, it really wasn't that bad." I wanted to kill him. So we went out and got new undies, and he has been accident free for 3 days now. Of course he hasn't pooped since then, and I am hoping he won't be like my sister , who shall remain nameless (it's the brunette), who would hold it in, and my parents were about to take her in for surgery. Please don't let it get to that point. I think I'll just let him eat a whole lot of watermelon tonight, that should do the trick. Of course as excited as I am, I also hate it, today I had to make our 1st trip to a public restroom while we were out shopping. I hate that part. Perfect timing, in a few weeks I am going to be driving by myself with the kids up to Northern California, I can't even begin to imagine how many potty breaks I am going to have to make.

Ice Skating


Andy & I on the ice
(I actually like this pic of me)


Andy skating like an old man


Dorothy & I cracking up,
Andy rocking out!


Chloe whizzed past me,
and I almost fell


Andy getting in the
groove finally!


Dorothy & Andy,
two of my favorite people!

It was so fun, but I have not been skating since a disastarous blind date the summer after high school. I was terrified, luckily Dorothy and I got there early, so we were able to practice for a few minutes, that way I was able to play cool for Andy. He was all set until someone told him to make sure he keeps his fingers in when he falls or else if someone skates over them they'll get cut off. It took me a while to convince him he would be fine, I also explained that was why we have 10 fingers, it's not that big of a deal if you lose a few here or there. Seriously, I am just so thankful I didn't break an ankle or anything, what a horrible way to start off the summer!

Yanked!!!


Buffy's last picture with all
of her baby teeth!


A shot of the tooth growing in behind
already (Andy & Buffy are like
sharks, they have rows of teeth).


Dr. Demento tying the dental
floss to her tooth.


Tying the other side to the door...
SLAM!!!


Happy Buffy with a
missing tooth!

5.29.2007

It was a whirlwind weekend, nonstop, and I am happy to have a moment to breathe now.

Friday we went to the movies, no crowds (yea) good friends (more yea) new great babysitter (most yea)! I am sad to say that Jon and I missed out on an opportunity, one of those -we just hesitated a few moments too long- so it was lost. As we were pulling into the parking lot on Friday (in Jon's Monster truck, which I didn't want to drive in the 1st place) we headed right over to the high profile parking. It was full... with stupid little cars. I was ticked, Jon was ticked, I let it get to me, and then got mad at him for making us drive his truck (I realized this was stupid, and backed down quickly), so we headed into the parking garage, where everytime we would go under a sign my stomach would drop because I was sure we were going to hit it. I noticed a huge Red Dodge Pick-up in front of us, and we followed them all the way up to the 5th floor, the only place we could find a spot where our o-zone enemy cars would fit. WE got in the elevator with another couple, and Jon recognized them from the red truck. He started the conversation by telling them how they maybe had 2 inches of room to spare, and the wife laughed and said she had been freaking out about it the whole time. Yada, Yada, Yada...we come to find out they have 4 kids all the same ages as ours, they live in Mesa, kids go to Hale elementary, they were in Phoenix without kids for their anniversary weekend... We both knew they were mormon instantly, and we instantly clicked, but we met up with friends, they took off to get a quick bite before the movie, and the moment was gone. We didn't even get their names, while we were waiting in the theater we saw them come in, she made eye contact, and almost looked like she wanted to come and talk, but it didn't happen. Afterwards they waited out the whole credits just like us, but we missed each other upon exiting. Stupid I know, but I just felt like I missed out on gaining some new friends, and I hate that I hesitated.

The movie was good, and long. Afterwards we came home and hung out for a while with some friends. The kids had been good for the sitter, so I was thrilled, plus she said she would love to come again. Music to my ears ;)

Saturday Jon was heading over for more work at our house, I was able to sleep in a bit, then we got up and got a move on with chores. I promised the kids we would go swimming, so it was nice leverage to get them to work. WE picked up Jon and went out for lunch, then headed back to our house for towels and to get sunscreened. Then off to Encanto pool, the kids had a blast. I have great videos that I will post later. I stayed in the kiddie pool with Coop & Buffy, and Chloe & Andy went back and forth between the two. After a few hours I called Jon and told him to take a break and come meet us, and he did, then I called Jimmy and he came also. The kids had so much fun. I was glad we did it. We were there for almost 4 hours, I couldn't believe it.

We came home to get ready to go out, it's a holiday weekend so we were living it up. CHloe was going to the movies with friends, and we were going to go to the mall ( I desperately need a nw swimsuit). It was a huge turning point for us that night, dropping Chloe off at the Az Center to see a movie with her friends, with a fist full of money. I can't believe how grown up she is. We went out to the mall, had dinner, and one store later a certain child decided not to cooperate anymore, so we headed home. I was not in the mood to deal with it. I had to prepare for sharing time anyways, plus we needed to get Chloe so it was fine.

Sunday it was just me in Primary, the pres and 1st counselor were out of town, so I had to do it all. We had a few minor problems (forgot keys to the cabinet, missing a teacher, the a/c doesn't work...) but nothing major. Then we came home and vegged. A nice calm relaxing day of movies and games and naps with the kids.

Yesterday Jon took off to our house, and the kids were already starting about going to the pool. I hadn't quite decided, so I was trying to just fend them off until I knew what i really wanted to do. Luckily Johnny came over with his kids, so that kept them occupied for a while. Jon came home around 12:30, showered and we decided to go get lunch and head to the mall again (Chandler this time) so I could find Chloe a swimsuit, and Buffy a dress for graduation. 4 hours later, swimsuit and dress was found, but no luck for me. We came home, and the girls and I headed right back out to Mervyn's, my luck wasn't any better there, but the girls sure got lucky. THen off to the grocery store, I remember why I never tkae children to the grocery store with me after yesterday, it took me twice as long, and cost me a whole lot more, and I was ticked by the end of the trip. Needless to say, we got home, had pb&j's or raviolis, and the kids went to bed. I was numb from the waist down. It felt so good to go to bed last night, until something woke me up at 2:00 this morning, and I couldn't fall back asleep until 5:45.

All is calm now, Coop is enthralled with Noggin, Isabelle is sleeping, and I think I might go lay down on the couch, but I thought I would just catch you all up. I just realized this is a super long post, really about nothing. I hope you don't feel like you wasted your time here!

5.25.2007

See you tonight!


For all interested, we are going to the 7:00 show at Arizona Center tonight. There are other people meeting us also, but we'd love a crowd! Hope to see you all there!

5.24.2007


Once again Johnny is correct!
I hope I can stump you at least once brother!


Riddle:

I'm where yesterday follows today, and tomorrow's in the middle. What am I?

Things I love...


I love his bum in undies, I love that he needed to step on a bug so he put on the 1st shoes he found (Buffy's), I love that he always wants to help me in the kitchen. He is washing potatoes here. I love him!!!

5.23.2007

SO my favorite out-of-towner received her package in the mail. Go check out the goods on her blog here.

It was hard, I wasn't sure what to get here, what do you get for someone who is a mom, a skater, a friend, a rocker, one of the coolest girls I know, who wears etnies, but buys hot dresses for husband's work parties... Oh yea, she is also a candy lover (and I don't mean she makes love to candy, she adores it) she would probably marry it if she wasn't already married to a foxy guy (and yes I just called her husband Foxy, but he knows it, she knows it, it's no secret).

She seemed rather pleased, and I was happy with my choices and my ability to know her pretty well, even though we have truly only been able to hang out together in person maybe 10 times over the last 9 years. Hopefully that will change soon, when they move to [Central] Phoenix.

So glad you loved it, Happy birthday Roxtar!

Take me out to the Ballgame!


Pre-game in the parking lot,
everyone in their D-Backs duds.


In our awesome seats


Anthony & Andy being crazy!


Allison, Chloe, Alexa & Andrew


The gang!


So Jon and his brothers like to do nice things for their employees, and the last couple years they have taken everyone to a Diamondbacks game. Last night was the night, and they had enough extra tickets that we were able to take all our kids, and our great friend's , The A's.

The kids had a blast, they were so hopped up on sugar, and we didn't get home until almost 10:00. I was exhausted, they were exhausted. They had licorice, peanuts, popcorn, soda, cotton candy, ice cream, and we started it all off with Los Compadres. What a night.

Of course we lost, which was a total bummer, but fun was had by all! Our school was giving out free tickets, so we are all going again in 2 weeks, so I am going to plan ahead a whole lot better, so I don't have to buy so much crap there.

I think the kids favorite part was watching this thing in front of the Ballpark. We did that as we were leaving, and they wanted to just watch it and watch it forever. Then I tried to wrangle everyone for a group picture, and as you can see above, the silliness was everywhere! For those of you who don't know him, Keith is normally not cross-eyed ;)

5.22.2007

Amazingly awkward suicidal knock knock joke. Hilarious!

So funny, a little dark, but hilarious!

Windward Reports: Cubicle War 2006

This makes me wish I worked in an office. I would love to be involved in a cubicle war!

True Story

Today, two people I know ran into each other at Costco. One of them is a friend, the other family. My friend said that the family member jokingly looked over the contents of her cart, and gave approval. As my friend was relaying this story to me, she said she was sooooo happy that she decided to forgo buying condoms and KY.

Now that would have made my day!

5.21.2007


Johnny wins, umbrella it was!


Riddle:

I'm the part of the bird that's not in the sky. I can swim in the ocean and yet remain dry. What am I?

5.18.2007

My Brophy Boy




AS most of you probably know I loved Brophy Boys. The cars they drove, the clothes they wore, the lives they lived. They just seemed so fabulous to a little old Central High girl from the ghetto as most of my friends would say. The other day I was driving down Central and saw this darling guy with pretty much this exact outfit on, walking home from Brophy. If only it was 14 years ago, I would have had a hayday...

I always knew that I would name my boys "Brophy" like names, names like:
  • JD
  • Ned
  • Willie
  • Glenn
  • Nick
  • Chazz
  • Charlie
  • Sam
So now I have me an Andy, and a Cooper (Coop) so Brophy. Then the fact that Coop likes his collar to be up, it just makes me proud ;)

P.S. Cooper also has a rap sheet like Brophy boys, see his nice red Croc wannabes? He stole them today. He doesn't realize he stole them, and I didn't realize it until I was home. So I called and paid for them over the phone, but it's a funny story for the next time we see each other!

5.17.2007


How many of you are still feeling the pain of the game last night? My stomach hurts from being so tense.

I am kind of thinking we need to have a party for the game Friday night? Anyone interested? Let me know if you are, and we'll go from there.

In the meantime...



GO SUNS!!!

On my plate...



So my aunt has me doing some kind of P.I. work for her over the next few days. I'm a little (not worried, not quite sure what the word would be) maybe apprehensive about it all. I have to go to a certain location and take a picture at 10:00 and 11:30, over the next 3 days. I am supposed to be seeing whether or not they are having any kind of party or celebration. SO Cooper and I are about to head out to Litchfield for this, then I have to figure out what to do with my self out there for the time in between the 2 shots. I keep asking Jon if he is sure I can't get in trouble for taking random pictures of a public place, he assures me I can't. Of course, this could be his chance to get rid of me, so of course he wouldn't tell me the truth. Anyhow, wish me luck.

Anything FUN on your plates today? I'd love to hear!

Things I love...

In no particular order...

  • Perfume, love it, I can never have enough of it.
  • Getting a card in the mail, I even made a journal to start putting them in, because I hate getting rid of them
  • Comments

Random you are thinking? I am sitting here loving the delicious smell of my Lovely perfume, lookin at a card I received the other day, and thinking about the funny comments I have been getting from funny people lately.

5.16.2007

Things I love...

Being able to have lunch with my brother. I love that he is Mr. Mom, and lives nearby. It's fun hanging out, watching him get frustrated with his kid (I don't say kids, cause it's really only one that frustrates him). I love laughing under our breaths when one of our sons do or say something that perhaps they shouldn't, but it cracks him and I up anyway. I'm thankful for the relationship we have now, cause if you knew us years ago, you never would have known we would ever like each other this much! I am just sitting here in my full from Los Compadres euphoria, thinking about our fun lunch, and wanted to make sure he knows that I love it!

[pak-ij]

So my fab friend put this challenge out to anyone reading. I have been wanting to do it, but either didn't have the money, or resources, or box, or couldn't decide who the recipient should be. I finally figured all of the above out and sent it off today. Unfortunately I forgot to take pictures of it, but I am so excited because the person I sent it to has absolutely no clue it is coming. I hope it makes this person's day! It definitely has made mine, just thinking about that person receiving it. I challenge all of you readers, send something, even if it is not a package, just a note, a card, an e-mail, something to brighten someone's day. You'll feel great, I promise!

5.15.2007

Holly wins! (This is the 1st picture I found
of mushrooms that didn't make me want
to throw up, blaaaagh!)

Riddle:

What goes up the chimney down, but can't go down the chimney up?



5.14.2007

My Mother's Day


Me and my kiddos
(not too crazy about the picture,
but it was the best one!)

I had my good breakfast on Saturday morning, becuase I knew we wouldn't have time on Sunday without being late to church which would just ruin my morning (I hate being late to anything). I actually cooked the breakfast, but I didn't mind because Jon was mowing the lawn at our house, which meant that I didn't have to mow the lawn.

My mom and I went to my brother-in-law's luncheon (he got his masters degree), unfortunatley he and my sis were sick, so I sat at the opposite end of the table from them. The food and company was delightful.

Then my mom and I went to Nordstrom's, I have been on the hunt for red shoes since Thursday. I bought a cute white shirt with black polka dots, and I have a darling red chunky necklace, but I wanted red shoes to finish off the ensemble. I kept finding shoes, but they would pinch my toes, or not quite fit, or be out of red and only have black or white. So the same happened at Nordstrom's, but I bought a pair of cute black shoes, and a pair of red ones that weren't quite what I was wanting, but I was going to just deal with it.

Jon had been working diligently at our house all day, and got our closet framed, we are ready for drywall now. I asked him if he wouldn't mind going out to Chandler Mall, so I could see whether or not the Nordstrom's there might have the shoes I soooo wanted. Fabulous as he is, he agreed.

We ate at Ruby's, I was bummed because they were out of bananas, so I couldn't have a Chocolate Banana shake, but the chocolate was fine, especially because the service was terrible, so all of our shakes were free :). The kids were good (Chloe was at a school trip, so we only had the 3), and we headed off to Nordstrom's. Of course they didn't have the ones I wanted, but the darling guy who was taking care of me kept bringing things out, and voila! I found a pair. (pictured below)


Me with my shoes & Vintage Apron ;)


I was soooo happy. They got just the reaction I was hoping for at church, I love it when my shoes get noticed, when anything gets noticed, so I was very happy.

I woke up to cards, and flowers, and a fabulous vintage apron I was eyeing on ebay. Homemade gifts from the kiddos, it was a good morning. We even made it to church...

On time, and my kids (excluding Buffy who was crying in the seat next to me) all got up and sang. Probably the best part of Church on Mother's day, this is the 1st year all of my kids would have been up there if Buff hadn't chickened out! We had muffins for mom in Primary, so it was a little different, and I was actually able to go with Jon to Sunday School for about 20 minutes, which was very nice.

The A/C doesn't work right in our church, so it was like a 100 degrees in the primary room, I thought I was going to melt. It was still nice, the fruit salad was yummy yummy.

We went to lunch with my mom, Jimmy & Amber after church. Then came back to mom's for a fabulous Tuxedo Cake from Willow Bakery. The Johhny and his gang came over, so the kids got to have fun with their cousins.

We relaxed for a while, then headed over to my Mother-in-law's, and had fun visiting with our family there.

I don't know why my kids always seem to be worse on Mother's Day, but I was ready to kill them all by the end of last night. They were all just spazzes throughout the day, oh well, I still enjoyed my day. That's all that really matters.

Jon, thanks for going above and beyond to make sure I had a great weekend, you are the best husband ever, and I know that without a doubt. I don't deserve you, and I am so glad you chose me to be the mother of your children. XOXOXOXO

P.S. My shoes squeak, so I will probably return them, but at least I had them for the day!

5.11.2007






We had a tea party in Buffy's class, hopefully I'll figure out how to upload the video. Than it was the Brownbag Lunch Concert. Buffy's class sang a few songs, and Chloe played 3 songs with the Violin. It started off nice, and ended up miserable. Cooper was a terror, than the other 3 chimed in. I ended up crying in the parking lot for a few minutes, I was ready to kill them all. Now I am in stress mode trying to get ready for the Primary Talent Show tonight. No way I am going to accomplish everything I need to. Wish me luck.

P.S. Apparently I need to think of different things to post about, because sad as it is to say, I had the most comments ever on a silly little post about ice. I need to rethink this whole blogging thing I guess!

5.10.2007

Things I love...


Sonic Ice

Seriously, the best ice in the world. I can remember a time when all ice was like this, even the Taco Bell on 7th Ave & Indian School. It's not so much the soda, because I have yet to have a good coke from Sonic yet, but I deal so I can have the ice!

P.S. Have you ever read what is on a Sonic cup? Here goes:

We believe in your individual choice, and in the spirit of choice. We offer you
168,894 possible drink combinations. Think about it, starting with an Orange Vanilla Sprite, you can have a different drink every day for the next 462 years. How's that for refreshing choices?

That is nuts, I would have loved to have the job to actually figure that number out.

P.S.S. Read the quote from Lemony Snicket today, it's a keeper!
Johnny wins! (you are smart,
it took me a long time to figure that one out!)
Watch for something in the mail :)

Riddle:

What kind of room has no windows or doors?


http://womanshealth.gov/woman/index.cfm

An 8-week challenge to increase your physical activity
beginning Sunday, May 13th, Mother's Day, to kick off National Women's Health Week.


What is the WOMAN Challenge?

This free eight week challenge encourages women and girls to walk 10,000 steps or get 30 minutes of moderate exercise every day. The WOMAN Challenge begins on Mother's Day, May 13, and ends on July 8, 2007.


You can register on the website above, or just do it. What's the worst that can happen people? I am praying for a slight change, but at least I will feel better no matter what.


To do list:

  • Buy a pedometer

GOOD LUCK!

P.S. I would love to post about success stories in July. Let me know if you do it, and if it helps you at all!

P.S.S. Thanks to Julie at Mom's Purse, for turning me on to this!

5.09.2007

What gets wetter and wetter the more it dries?



Leave me your answer, if you're right, maybe you'll get a neat treat! Tune in for the answer tomorrow!

A conversation (with visuals)

The phone rings, and I run to answer it.

Me - Hello

Friend - Hi, its __________

Me - How's it going?

Friend - Fabulous, running errands, getting ready to pick up the kids from school. How bout you?

Me - It was going well, I got up early so I could shower, got myself ready. The kids have a half day, so I was going to take the troop to go have lunch with Jon. I finish myself up, get Cooper all ready, Isabelle is fed and changed, we are ready to head out the door. I get in the car, after loading all of my crap in it, and I notice it feels a little lopsided. I wonder if I am losing my mind for a moment, then I decide to get out and investigate. Yep, you guessed it, as flat as a 5th grade girl, (well not me in the 5th grade, but most girls).

It's hard to see how flat it really
is in this picture, but is is flaaaaat!


I want to scream, luckily I have a fabulous husband who is on his way to get the kids as we speak, oh I hope he picks up something yummy for lunch too. I have not been to the grocery store in a week, and we have slim pickings around here. I hope your day turns out better than mine, have loads of fun and think of me while you are! Bye.

5.08.2007



Coop & Mr. T


I adore these pictures of Little L
& Cooper, she was so cute
holding him close!


Coop thoroughly enjoying his
cotton candy (although he was
rather disappointed it wasn't
a snow cone!)

Instead of our weekly Monday lunch at A's place, we decided to meet at the zoo. What a fabulous idea, it was a gorgeous day, with a wonderful breeze. we sat in the shade while the kiddos played in the water for more than an hour. I love not feeling the pressure to have to visit the animals at the zoo, I am sad that my membership expired, luckily A got us in on hers. I just got us a membership to the Phoenix Art Museum, it is a lot cooler inside there in the summer, than the zoo, but I think I want both. I am torn. Anyhow, a fabulous Monday, what a way to start off the week!


P.S. THe last week has truly been fabulous, besides yesterday, a great party on Saturday, and a fantastic Girls night, I got to have lunch with the one and only Dorothy on Thursday. We met at Joe's Crab Shack, let the boys play on the playground, and chatted and laughed for a few hours, then finished up with a Bananas Foster (my all time favorite), what a great day. e had so much fun we totally lost track of time and almost missed picking our kids up from school, oh well, they'll deal!

5.06.2007

The Husband Store

A store that sells husbands has just opened in New York City, where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store operates. You may visit the Store ONLY ONCE !

There are six floors and the attributes of the men increase as the shopper ascends the flights. There is, however, a catch . . .. You may choose any man from a particular floor, or you may choose to go up a floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building! So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband .

On the first floor the sign on the door reads:
Floor 1 - These men have jobs and love the Lord.

The second floor! Sign reads:
Floor 2 - These men have jobs, love the Lord, and love kids.

The third floor sign reads:
Floor 3 - These men have jobs, love the Lord, love kids, and are extremely good looking.
"Wow," she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going.

She goes to the fourth floor and sign reads:
Floor 4 - These men have jobs, love the Lord, love kids, are drop-dead good looking and help with the housework. "Oh, mercy me!" she exclaims, "I can hardly stand it!"

Still, she goes to the fifth floor and sign reads:
Floor 5 - These men have jobs, love the Lord, love kids, are drop-dead Gorgeous, help with the housework, and have a strong romantic streak. She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor and the sign Reads:

Floor 6 - You are visitor 4,363,012th to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please.

Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store. Watch your step as you
exit the building, and have a nice day!

Cinco de Mayo


The food


The people ( some of them)


Mimi & Toms


Some of the kids (just a few really)



Saturday started out crazy and busy, and finished up just about the same. We had a baby shower, achievement day, and a jewelry show all around the same time. Somehow we did it all, then we had to shop for our Cinco De Mayo party. I had originally thought of doign something for Cinco De Mayo, but it just kind of snowballed, and turned into a regular Fiesta. We had a really good turnout, but it was your typical mormon party, where the adults were way outnumbered by the kids. We pulled out our bounce house, and counted our blessings that the weather was so beautiful. A few hours into it, I was actually cold sitting outside, but I enjoyed it. We won't be that lucky again for along time. Most everyone went home by about 9:30 - 10:00, then our friends who had to come late hung out and we talked till midnight. I was exhausted, but it was a blast. One of my favorite parts of the night was Senor Geoff's fabulous Creme Brulee, I can't wait to have it again.
Friday was our ward's Father & Sons campout, the boys were so excited. They were counting down to it all week. Jon took Friday oof, so they could get up there early and have the day to hang out, hike, explore, play wiffle ball, just have a great time. This is a picture just before they left.
THey got there around noonish, and it was cold, and it was windy. Very windy, like 30-40 mph the news said. SO they spent most of their day hanging out under their canopy, or by the fire. It was impossible to play wiffle ball, obviously. Not quite the day they had in mind. The night was not a whole lot better, it was cold, and the boys did not sleep very well. Jon was worried about them, and then had to climb into bed with them, because they kept freaking out that he wasn't in the back of the truck with them. THen they woke up to this. Yes, that is snow, granted it was just a light dusting, but nonetheless it is snow!

These were taken with Jon's phone, hence
not the greatest of pictures!
In the meantime, back in Phoenix, I didn't quite know what to do with myself, with no kids for a whole day. I started off with getting my car washed, doing some shopping for some presents, picking up my contacts that I have needed to get for a couple weeks, lunch, picked up some shoes my mom and I had bought the week before, drooled over jewelry at Macy's, got a pedicure, then got my hair done (which I am not happy with, so I have to go back to have him fix). A good full day, then we were meeting up with my friend and her daughters, because her husband on sons were also on the campout. She has 2 daughters the same age as Chloe & Buffy, so we knew we had to have a girl's night. We started with a fabulously delicious dinner at Cheesecake Factory, then we headed over to Borders. I love Borders, we all had a good time rading books, picking out some new ones, and talking about books we read as a child. Then we headed over to AJ's Fine Foods to get dessert, we picked out our favorites, and headed back to their house for games. We had a blast, by 10:30 I was exhausted, the girls weren't, but we had to go. It was a great girls night, I can't wait to do it again.


P.S. Our husbands weren't too thrilled when they found out about our gloroius night compared to their kind of bummer campout. Oh well, deal with it boys!